i dont agree with your value or gamer badges sure it has an IPS panel and all, but unless you are a professional color accuracy is probably not at the top of your list when choosing a monitor (and even if it is im sure a VA panel will probably suffice) i mean sure, you dont want to see the wrong colors, but a TN panel is accurate enough for office work or casual movie watching and i think there are other LCDs better suited for gaming out there, even in the 30" range, and for 200 cheaper but that is because when i think of gamer i think of fps and i think low response time. some TN's out there have 2ms gtg response time, which will make movement alot more fluid i really like this monitor but i think that aside from pros, this monitor will not be worth the price tag
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value is not strictly in terms of price. actually price plays the smallest role when determining value, if price was a factor then it would get the best bang for your buck award which is did not, what value is to us is, build quality, performance, durability, design, functionality and so forth something that turns out to be a good investment. That is why this monitor got the Value award.
As for the gamer award I have been using this monitor not stop for gaming and it has preformed perfectly, there is no visible lag and I have played games such as Crysis, Mirrors Edge, CS:S, Perfect World, World of Goo, Bioshock, FEAR, FEAR 2 demo, Red Alert 3 and well I could keep going and all performed without a single hiccup, playing at res ranging from 1440x900 up to 2560x1600.
8ms GTG for IPS panel is amazing, typically it is 16ms GTG for such a panel besides 8ms GTG and lower is at a point that the human eye can for the most part not tell the difference anymore, its more for marketing sake when you see 2ms as that pulls people in thinking they are getting a better panel, are they, sure but is it something they will notice, highly unlikely but anyhow this monitor still worked out great for gaming so that is why it got the gamers award. Also yes you can find a cheaper 30" probably one using a TN panel but in comparing a 30" of this build quality and of its panel type to others on the market they will typically have a higher price tag.
Edit: like for out number rating system we are working on a page that will display all the mini-awards and what they stand for and how they are earned to give our readers more insight to how that portion is given out in a review.
If you are looking for a 30" monitor, this is one of two excellent ones that are near the $1,000 mark. All others are above $1,500 or even over $2,000. With that said this monitor gives you good value because it is about $1,200.
Sure, color accuracy isn't important for office work, but at the same time you wouldn't be getting a 30" monitor for office work. If you are, there really aren't any "cheap TN" alternatives as most people who need 30" require color accuracy for their line of work. And if you're casually watching movies, color accuracy isn't a problem for you. But, if you watch movies often and love HD content, then color accuracy is something that is very important to you.
Will Joe the casual gamer pick up a 30"? Probably not, but a hardcore gamer with a budget large enough for a 30" might do so.
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Sazin wrote:
Which TN monitor did you guys use? I'm impressed by how the picture quality is so different from the two monitors!
For the test comparison between the IPS and TN penal for the TN portion of the test we used a 22" Acer Monitor hooked up with DVI to the same system used with the 30" display.
If you are looking for a 30" monitor, this is one of two excellent ones that are near the $1,000 mark. All others are above $1,500 or even over $2,000. With that said this monitor gives you good value because it is about $1,200.
Sure, color accuracy isn't important for office work, but at the same time you wouldn't be getting a 30" monitor for office work. If you are, there really aren't any "cheap TN" alternatives as most people who need 30" require color accuracy for their line of work. And if you're casually watching movies, color accuracy isn't a problem for you. But, if you watch movies often and love HD content, then color accuracy is something that is very important to you.
Will Joe the casual gamer pick up a 30"? Probably not, but a hardcore gamer with a budget large enough for a 30" might do so.
you make good points and i agree with all of them, but i still stand by my statement that it does not deserve the gamer badge the jury's still out about the value one, mostly because of the diamond in the pic, which infers a long-term investment, but also because it would be valuable to a professional who is essentially using the monitor to make money typically, alot of office work requires a large amount of screen space and it would be much more economical to use dual 22" monitors with cheaper TN panels than this 30" behemoth by my own definition i think that someone who cant get enough of hd movies is hardcore, therefore the hardcore badge besides, giving it hardcore and gamer is kind of redundant, and not totally accurate either, because gamer could mean anything from a soccer mom who plays wii with her kids on the weekends to jon wendel, pwnr extraordinaire
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Ricochet wrote:
robodude666 wrote:
If you are looking for a 30" monitor, this is one of two excellent ones that are near the $1,000 mark. All others are above $1,500 or even over $2,000. With that said this monitor gives you good value because it is about $1,200.
Sure, color accuracy isn't important for office work, but at the same time you wouldn't be getting a 30" monitor for office work. If you are, there really aren't any "cheap TN" alternatives as most people who need 30" require color accuracy for their line of work. And if you're casually watching movies, color accuracy isn't a problem for you. But, if you watch movies often and love HD content, then color accuracy is something that is very important to you.
Will Joe the casual gamer pick up a 30"? Probably not, but a hardcore gamer with a budget large enough for a 30" might do so.
you make good points and i agree with all of them, but i still stand by my statement that it does not deserve the gamer badge the jury's still out about the value one, mostly because of the diamond in the pic, which infers a long-term investment, but also because it would be valuable to a professional who is essentially using the monitor to make money typically, alot of office work requires a large amount of screen space and it would be much more economical to use dual 22" monitors with cheaper TN panels than this 30" behemoth by my own definition i think that someone who cant get enough of hd movies is hardcore, therefore the hardcore badge besides, giving it hardcore and gamer is kind of redundant, and not totally accurate either, because gamer could mean anything from a soccer mom who plays wii with her kids on the weekends to jon wendel, pwnr extraordinaire
As I stated in the review this monitor is ideal for people in fields that require true color, so yes office work as vaguely as you put it would probably do better with a TN panel but people who do engineering, graphical design, banners, t-shirts, 3d rendering, photo editing, magazines, video editing would need a IPS panel, sure they may not need one this large but this would be what would be in their requirements for a display and with all that in mind and its build quality and its pirce and its performance awarded this monitor the Value award. As for gamer not sure how many times I have to explain it but any game I threw at this monitor it performed great so if your a hardcore gamer with a big budget this monitor as the performance and the quality. As for hardcore, this monitor is intended for people who know how to use it, I wouldnt give it a novice award as a novice probably would have no idea what the purpose of a monitor like this is for or how to properly use it, same goes for the intermediate award.
Oh and as a side note, the image quality of this monitor is better then most people hi-def LCD TVs.
besides, giving it hardcore and gamer is kind of redundant, and not totally accurate either, because gamer could mean anything from a soccer mom who plays wii with her kids on the weekends
Well, a soccer mom who plays wii is called a Casual Gamer. A hardcore gamer is a person who plays for many hours and cares about FPS more than most people do. They're the type of person who'd want to play CS:S in 2560 x 1600 to see the most amount of area possible.
Office users would be better off with 2x $200 22" monitors than they would with a single 30" monitors. It's been proven that two smaller monitors are better than a single large one. Microsoft wrote an article about it, and so have numerous other sites.
Again, this product is aimed at people who need color accuracy in their monitor. People who use it professionally. Average Joe won't be looking at buying a 30" monitor. If you're editing a 1920 x 1080 image, or working with 10MP photos, you'll want the large 2560 x 1600 display more than you would a pair of 1680 x 1050 22 monitors.
Oh, and this monitor uses an LG H-IPS panel in anyone cares. The highest quality IPS panel currently on the market.
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